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The fearless actor talks 'Reminiscence,' 'Westworld,' and why her character really died in 'Solo. Newton has spent these last few weeks of summer promoting the sci-fi noir Reminiscencenow in theaters and on HBO Max. A high-profile reunion with Westworld co-creator Lisa Joyit follows a private investigator, Nick Bannister Hugh Jackmanwho scours his own memories for traces of a vanished lover Rebecca Ferguson using a futuristic memory machine.

She taught me that we must always be alive and awake to possibilities of change. The series has earned her three consecutive Emmy nominations, including one win. And, unlike multiple Star Wars characters played ly by Black actresses, she was not an alien, appearing without CGI or heavy prosthetics. But Val sacrifices herself in the first third of the film.

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But more on that later. As Reminiscence hits screens, Newton is also hard at work on the fourth season of Westworld. Newton has been filming extensively, which has entailed plenty of night shoots. Slipping away from the set, she speaks to Inverse en route to the Los Angeles premiere of Reminiscence.

Speaking by phone, Newton is warm, impassioned, articulate, and thrillingly frank. She races through our wide-ranging conversation with the kind of mile-a-minute momentum that must come naturally to an actress who, at the peak of her creative powers, has never appeared more in control. Honestly, I was ready to quit.

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I love being a human rights activist. I love writing. This was my moment to step away, and not in a fearful way. It just fit. And then I got the call for Westworld. It was my husband, [ Mamma Mia! The original Westworldobviously, has got a real kind of cult value.

And it's the Nolans. I love Memento. Oh, Inception was so romantic: the music, and the character played by Leonardo DiCaprio. My god, he can fucking bring a performance! Would you play a prostitute? Would you play a madam in a saloon who farms out these innocent, young beauties to people who are going to rape and abuse them? They asked me to play the evil that I had daily been trying to rid from the world — and do it naked. I've also been physically sexually abused. And so, they asked me to reveal my body at a time when I wanted to retreat, [especially because] I had a six-month-old baby when I started shooting Westworld.

But when they described what we were going to use it for, it was literally the whole notion of martial arts: use your enemy's strength against them. That is what the first season of Westworld was, and in it was the liberation of a brown woman. If you want to really understand how cruel and how destructive humanity is, look at the experiences of most brown women in the world. You don't get lower than that in the pecking order of what's fucking important. To be able to use that, and literally empower this character through her truth, with everything that I've wanted to do with my career.

And that was why I wanted to leave the film business, because I felt like I wasn't able to do that. Then, Westworld happened. And I wasn't expecting anything from it. Of course not. I would have done it for nothing. I needed it for myself. And that character ended up captivating people. It was so beautiful. This spring Newton women fucking burst from the ground. And I got to actually release that, finally. We have superheroes on the ground right now, and they're the ones that we should be celebrating and supporting. This idea that there are these fantasy superheroes just disconnects us from really finding the superheroes that are actually here.

If you get rid of critical race theory, are you going to imprison the people that write Watchmen?

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The director of 12 Years a Slave? Lisa Joy, for writing about the reevaluation of history? Opposition to critical race theory is like Scientology, in that it wants to erase history.

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But if you erase history, it's like trauma survivors not dealing with their trauma. If you don't deal with your trauma, it is going to bite you in the ass, because it's going to come up in ways that you don't understand. You have to deal with your trauma. And that is what critical race theory is.

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That is what a reimagining of history is. That is what we're starting to see in art. And that is why we have to fight to critique critical race theory because it's inspiring so many of us artists. I felt disappointed by Star Wars that my character was killed. It happened during filming. And it was much more just to do with the time we had to do the scenes. So I could have come back at some point. Like, are you fucking joking? The first season [of Westworld ] was the real epiphany.

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After that, I feel like we're in an entertaining show, honestly. I love the show. I think it's wonderful. The origin story of Westworld is profound and had a massive impact. For me now, I'm passionate about producing documentaries. It's absolutely disturbing and sensational, and urgently important.

We need to share it with people so that people can be moved to do what it is that they want. Because so much of what's foul in the world right now is what is hidden from us. She has to die again and again and again, in order to get nuggets of truth. And that, to me, spoke volumes. Maeve, in a way, is generations of humanity that have had to die for progress.

In her, in the dimension of Westworldin that fantastical place, they condense literally generations of death and loss into this one character who dies again and again. She's humanity dying again and again. That first season was astonishing. I started to research women in the military. And unfortunately, I came across a documentary about women in the military talking about sexual abuse.

Watching women in the military speak into the camera, having the courage to talk about sexual violence, [I saw] they were every kind of woman, and I realized I could be any one of them. We think these women are tough, because they don't talk about what they have to deal with. We just assume that they don't have any of those issues. How could they? But, actually, they do, and they cover it up. They swallow it down. In order to be in the military, that's just what they have to tolerate. I realized that, not only could I be one of them, but that I have been one of them.

And that I needed to honor them. Part of why both Lisa and myself had felt doubtful about me playing [the role of Watts] was because we had internalized a male portrait of women in the military. That's pretty much all we've seen on screen. And so I found myself coming back to what I know in my heart. I named my kid Ripley! Why am I denying myself this [opportunity] because of the internalized internalization of a stereotype that I spend my life fighting?

I realized it was such a gift. But it was my own bigotry that I've internalized, that was causing me to doubt myself. It said everything about why Lisa, as a woman, should be writing this role, and why I, as an actress, should be playing it.

One of the beautiful things about coming from two different cultures is that one does feel entitled to be a person of the world, as opposed to a person of your culture. And that's something that Lisa and I share, me being from Zimbabwe and from England, and Lisa being a person from Chinese culture and British culture. We've had to figure out how to bring those two sides of ourselves together.

And that tension between those two sides is where the magic lies. I swear to you, and I see it in Lisa. I see it in her history and how she was brought up and what was expected of her, in the history of China and how a woman is perceived in China, and all of that, and then globalism and going to America to study the law, and to have this fantastic mind and take her legal mind into the sphere of fiction. We've come together over so many things. One is, you know, this current argument over critical race theory.

She and I define intersectionality, in many ways. And as a result, we are primed to the finest Newton women fucking. It makes us more creative, it makes us stronger, it makes us more determined, it makes us the absolute best we can be. We can't be complacent. We're not allowed to be. That's a Newton women fucking, man. It's a luxury for people to be complacent and to just feel like they're accepted as they walk around. I never feel accepted anywhere. So I have to accept myself. And in that bubble, that's where I exist.

Reminiscence is now in theaters and on HBO Max. Westworld Season 4 is expected to premiere in And, unlike multiple Star Wars characters played ly by Black actresses, she was not an alien, appearing without CGI or prosthetics. Isaac Feldberg. Thandiwe Newton thrives on chaos. Thandiwe Newton as Watts in Warner Bros. Ben Rothstein. Thandiwe Newton in Westworld Season 3 Episode 4. John P. Thandiwe Newton in Westworld Season 3 Episode 8. Mind and Body.

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